What happens to a listing when the system fails
The frustrating part is the gap between the problem and the reaction to it. A cesspool is a solvable piece of work, done by contractors who do it every week, and yet it clears a room of retail buyers faster than almost anything else.
That is because nobody in a conventional sale can size it. The seller does not know, the buyer does not know, the agent does not know, and the only way to find out is for somebody to spend money. So the deal stalls over the cesspool, and stalled deals rarely restart.
What we take on when the system has failed
The useful thing we bring to a failed cesspool is proportion. Homeowners get handed a figure by the first company they phone, assume that is the figure, and make a decision about their house on the strength of it.
We do this constantly. We can look at the age of the house, the lot, where the system sits and what the ground is like in that part of Suffolk County, and form a realistic view of what the cesspool actually needs. Sometimes it is smaller than you were told. Tell us what happened and we will tell you plainly what usually comes next.
Why local knowledge changes the number
A six-bedroom on Gladstone Avenue. A four-bedroom on Storey Avenue. A three-bedroom on Montauk Avenue. All of them in Islip, all bought by us.
Islip is roughly 18,418 people in Suffolk County, ZIP 11751, and the housing stock is mostly colonial, cape cod, ranch. Around Main Street and Sunrise Highway, most of it is old enough that the mechanicals are on their second or third life. The Islip stop pulls buyers who commute, which supports the good houses and does very little for the ones that need a roof. We have bought enough here to know which streets take water, which blocks still have oil tanks in the ground, and what the Islip Union Free School District does to a resale price.
No inspection, no pump-out, no cesspool repair required
There is a version of this where you borrow against the house, pay for a new system, and then find that the buyer who walked over the cesspool was not coming back and the next one wants something else fixed as well. We see it, and it is a hard thing to watch.
You do not have to repair the cesspool, pump it, inspect it or dig anything up to sell to us. The condition of the system is priced into the offer once, up front, and the offer does not move afterward.
Who to ask about a cesspool in Suffolk County
Rules around waste systems on Long Island have changed over the years and continue to, and what applies at your address depends on the lot, the location and what is already in the ground.
The county health department is the authority on what a replacement cesspool or septic system at your address has to be, and a sanitary contractor will know what that means in practice. There are sometimes programs that help with the cost, which is worth asking about while you have them on the phone. If you would rather not run that errand at all, sell the house with the cesspool as it is and it stops being yours.
How we arrive at a number on a house with a failed cesspool
On a house with a failed cesspool we start from the end: what it sells for once the work is done. From that we take away the cost of the work and a margin for the chance that we have misjudged either one. That is the whole method. Nothing is hidden in it.
- What it is worth repaired. Not the Islip median of $677,000 on its own, but what houses like yours on your street actually closed at recently.
- What the work costs. Roof, boiler, electric, the kitchen and bath. In Islip the stock is largely colonial and cape cod, and on houses that age the mechanicals are usually the expensive part rather than the cosmetics.
- How long we will hold it. The median Islip house goes under contract in about 35 days once it is showable, then waits 45 to 60 days more on the buyer's lender. Ours has to get to showable first, and we carry taxes and insurance across the whole of it.
- What we are wrong about. Walls and floors hide things until they come up. We price for that uncertainty, and it accounts for much of the distance between a cash offer and a retail price.
How we can pay this and still make it work
Most cash buyers skip this part. We do not. We run millions of dollars of construction a year, so we buy materials at contractor prices and keep our crews busy all year. The same renovation costs us roughly half of what you would be quoted as a homeowner.
That difference is how we make money. It is also why renovating before you sell seldom comes out ahead: you would pay retail for the roof and the boiler and then hope a buyer pays you back for them. Most of the time they do not. Our margin comes from building for less, not from buying from you for less.
If our number does not work for you, tell us. We would much rather hear it than push. We will go through your situation and give you a straight view of your options, including the ones that leave us out. A lot of people do better listing with an agent, and if you are one of them we will tell you now rather than have you find out later.
Closing on an Islip house with the system as it is
The reason a cash buyer matters here is not really speed. It is that nobody else is grading the house. A mortgage lender has an opinion about a failed cesspool and will hold funding until it is satisfied, and satisfying it means a contractor, an invoice and a sign-off, all completed before closing.
Which puts the seller in an impossible spot: pay for a new system on a house you are leaving, for a buyer who can still walk away afterward. We use our own funds. No lender, no conditions, no cesspool work required of you.
What you do not pay when you sell a house with a failed cesspool
Every line below is a cost of listing a house with a failed cesspool the retail way that simply does not arise here.
- Agent commission
- $33,850 at 5% of the Islip median none
- Seller closing costs
- About $13,540 on a $677,000 sale. We can cover these. none
- Repairs to make it listable
- Everything a buyer would flag, paid for before you list none
- Cleanout and removal
- Paid per load, before a single buyer walks through none
- Carrying costs while it waits
- Taxes, insurance and utilities while you spend 80 to 95 days finding a buyer and waiting for their loan none
Telling us everything, and what you owe a buyer
We would rather hear the whole history of the cesspool at the start. The backups, the pump-outs, the company that came out twice, the quote sitting on the kitchen counter that you have been avoiding for a month.
None of that changes whether we buy a house with a failed cesspool in it. On the disclosure question, ask your attorney what New York requires of you rather than taking our word or anyone else's. We are buyers rather than lawyers, and this is one worth getting right.
Common questions
Do I have to fix the cesspool before you buy an Islip house?
Not at all. No repair, no replacement, no pump-out, no inspection. The condition of the cesspool is priced into the offer, and the offer does not move afterward.
What does a new cesspool or septic system cost?
It turns on the lot, the location and what the county health department requires at your address, so any cesspool figure quoted from a web page is a guess. A sanitary contractor who has walked the property will give you a real answer.
The cesspool backed up but the house is still livable. Is that a failure?
Not necessarily. A single backup can be a simple blockage. Repeated backups, standing water in the yard, or a smell that keeps returning point toward the cesspool itself. We will give you our honest read on the system when we look at the Islip property.
A buyer walked away over the cesspool. Does that hurt my chances with you?
Not at all, and it is how a great many people arrive here. A retail buyer walking over a failed cesspool tells us something about that buyer, not about your house.
Do you buy houses on septic as well as cesspools?
Yes. A great deal of Suffolk County is on cesspools or septic rather than sewers, and we buy across all of it. Whatever is in your yard, it does not have to be working for us to buy the house.